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	<title>Comments on: MaxthonGuy Yells &#8216;First!&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: sistar</title>
		<link>http://browsersphere.com/2009/02/10/maxthon-guy-yells-firs/comment-page-1/#comment-2727</link>
		<dc:creator>sistar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>personally, I don&#039;t care who created a new underlying concept or technology first, I only care who make it actually work in real daily usage first. In that sense, I agree with the Maxthon blog in that Maxthon is the first to do it, or rather the first to make it actually work.

Sure, the multi-process thing was started by IE8 and Chrome, but in IE8 it doesn&#039;t work at all, at least to the end-users The whole browser still frequently freezes up, becomes unresponsive, just because one tab has loaded something it doesn&#039;t like. And then when you shut down that problematic tab process with Task Manager, it automatically reopens and reloads the same content and easily freezes up again.

Chrome is much better here, but still many times the main browser process becomes unresponsive just because of one bad tab process, and then there&#039;s the plugin problem (and usually Flash content is the reason behind a tab freeze up 90% of the time). So Chrome is better than IE8, but still not really good for practical use.

Now Maxthon is the first browser that actually implemented this feature/idea in a way that it actually works most of the time. And if I&#039;m not wrong, it&#039;s the first tabbed browser that one modal pop-up dialog (javascript alert for example) in one tab doesn&#039;t locks up the whole browser before you close the pop-up. So you can have a modal pop-up dialog in one tab, and still choose to close the tab or switch to another tab without closing the pop-up first. So to the end-users, Maxthon IS the first browser that gives them the browsing experience where each tab is truly isolated from each other.

I think what really counts is not who first comes up an idea that says &quot;I want to make tabs stable and isolated from each other&quot;, but who first successfully implemented this idea to make it actually work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>personally, I don&#8217;t care who created a new underlying concept or technology first, I only care who make it actually work in real daily usage first. In that sense, I agree with the Maxthon blog in that Maxthon is the first to do it, or rather the first to make it actually work.</p>
<p>Sure, the multi-process thing was started by IE8 and Chrome, but in IE8 it doesn&#8217;t work at all, at least to the end-users The whole browser still frequently freezes up, becomes unresponsive, just because one tab has loaded something it doesn&#8217;t like. And then when you shut down that problematic tab process with Task Manager, it automatically reopens and reloads the same content and easily freezes up again.</p>
<p>Chrome is much better here, but still many times the main browser process becomes unresponsive just because of one bad tab process, and then there&#8217;s the plugin problem (and usually Flash content is the reason behind a tab freeze up 90% of the time). So Chrome is better than IE8, but still not really good for practical use.</p>
<p>Now Maxthon is the first browser that actually implemented this feature/idea in a way that it actually works most of the time. And if I&#8217;m not wrong, it&#8217;s the first tabbed browser that one modal pop-up dialog (javascript alert for example) in one tab doesn&#8217;t locks up the whole browser before you close the pop-up. So you can have a modal pop-up dialog in one tab, and still choose to close the tab or switch to another tab without closing the pop-up first. So to the end-users, Maxthon IS the first browser that gives them the browsing experience where each tab is truly isolated from each other.</p>
<p>I think what really counts is not who first comes up an idea that says &#8220;I want to make tabs stable and isolated from each other&#8221;, but who first successfully implemented this idea to make it actually work.</p>
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		<title>By: Browsersphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Around the Browsersphere #12</title>
		<link>http://browsersphere.com/2009/02/10/maxthon-guy-yells-firs/comment-page-1/#comment-2710</link>
		<dc:creator>Browsersphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Around the Browsersphere #12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 00:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think MaxthonGuy and I may have reached some kind of virtual truce.  That is, until the next time the madness reappears over at his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bernie Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://browsersphere.com/2009/02/10/maxthon-guy-yells-firs/comment-page-1/#comment-2706</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie Zimmermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 20:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Careful with the compliments, MaxthonGuy, or I may start taking it easier on you. ;)  But no, that&#039;s not too much to ask, so I&#039;ve added a link to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maxthon.com/&quot; title=&quot;Maxthon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maxthon&lt;/a&gt; to the site&#039;s sidebar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Careful with the compliments, MaxthonGuy, or I may start taking it easier on you. <img src='http://browsersphere.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   But no, that&#8217;s not too much to ask, so I&#8217;ve added a link to <a href="http://www.maxthon.com/" title="Maxthon" rel="nofollow">Maxthon</a> to the site&#8217;s sidebar.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxthonGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxthonGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 21:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Bernie...

Good reply. Actually, I consider Browersphere, along with WebProNews, to be one of the two best sites for browser information. That&#039;s one reason I&#039;d really like to see Maxthon.com included in your listing of browser sites. Not too much to ask, is it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Bernie&#8230;</p>
<p>Good reply. Actually, I consider Browersphere, along with WebProNews, to be one of the two best sites for browser information. That&#8217;s one reason I&#8217;d really like to see Maxthon.com included in your listing of browser sites. Not too much to ask, is it?</p>
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		<title>By: Bernie Zimmermann</title>
		<link>http://browsersphere.com/2009/02/10/maxthon-guy-yells-firs/comment-page-1/#comment-2567</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernie Zimmermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 10:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for dropping by and for taking the time to comment, MaxthonGuy.  Just to be clear, I&#039;m pretty sure I didn&#039;t credit the &quot;A Farewell to Freeze Headaches&quot; piece to you.  However, it&#039;s now after 2am where I am, and my mind just may be playing tricks on me.

I have nothing against Maxthon, and feel that I&#039;ve given it some &lt;a href=&quot;http://browsersphere.com/tag/maxthon/&quot; title=&quot;Maxthon Coverage at Browsersphere&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pretty decent coverage&lt;/a&gt; here at Browsersphere in the past.

I &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; have a preference for tactful and honest blogging, though, so when I see outlandish claims being made or the truth being twisted to benefit one party over another, I tend to try and call it out.

As I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://browsersphere.com/2009/01/26/the-subtleties-of-fetching-images-in-web-browsers/#comment-2270&quot; title=&quot;Comment on &#039;The Subtleties of Fetching Images in Web Browsers&#039;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mentioned here before&lt;/a&gt;, I&#039;m of course a victim of my own biases, but I do my best not to let them show too much here.

I&#039;ll leave the determination of whether or not I&#039;m succeeding as an exercise to the reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping by and for taking the time to comment, MaxthonGuy.  Just to be clear, I&#8217;m pretty sure I didn&#8217;t credit the &#8220;A Farewell to Freeze Headaches&#8221; piece to you.  However, it&#8217;s now after 2am where I am, and my mind just may be playing tricks on me.</p>
<p>I have nothing against Maxthon, and feel that I&#8217;ve given it some <a href="http://browsersphere.com/tag/maxthon/" title="Maxthon Coverage at Browsersphere" rel="nofollow">pretty decent coverage</a> here at Browsersphere in the past.</p>
<p>I <em>do</em> have a preference for tactful and honest blogging, though, so when I see outlandish claims being made or the truth being twisted to benefit one party over another, I tend to try and call it out.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve <a href="http://browsersphere.com/2009/01/26/the-subtleties-of-fetching-images-in-web-browsers/#comment-2270" title="Comment on 'The Subtleties of Fetching Images in Web Browsers'" rel="nofollow">mentioned here before</a>, I&#8217;m of course a victim of my own biases, but I do my best not to let them show too much here.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll leave the determination of whether or not I&#8217;m succeeding as an exercise to the reader.</p>
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		<title>By: MaxthonGuy</title>
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		<dc:creator>MaxthonGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, BrowersphereGuy...

As one Guy to another, I&#039;m sure you want your blog to be as accurate as my Maxthon Blog (http://blog.maxthon.com/). So here are a couple of minor corrections. 

First, I didn&#039;t write the piece &quot;A Farewell to Freeze Headaches.&quot; It was  written by a Maxthon developer, the talented Jin Jiang. 

Second, the official press release that went to editors, did include this paragraph immediately after Jeff  Chen&#039;s comment that he didn&#039;t know of a browser with the same feature as The Isolator: &quot;Google&#039;s Chrome has a Crash Control feature that has a purpose similar to The Isolator, but uses a different technology.  It cannot stop freezes cause by Flash programs, which Maxthon&#039;s Isolator can prevent.&quot;

The copy of the press release in the blog was from an earlier draft and posted accidentally. Thanks for the catch.  I&#039;ll correct the blog entry.

Now I&#039;m curious. Is there something basic you don&#039;t like about Maxthon--besides me? I notice  you post the sites and regular information for the other five major browsers. But it can&#039;t have escaped your attention that--depsite pollsters&#039; insistance on hiding the number of surfers using Max within the statistics for Internet Explorer---Maxthon has gathered a large, enthusiast number of users. Have you tried Maxthon? A lot of people who do think it&#039;s a hoot.

Finally, a special thanks for conferring on me the title of  &quot;the persona behind the madness that is Maxthon Blog.&quot;  I am honored.

MaxthonGuy
a.k.a. The Persona Behind the Madness that is Maxthon Blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, BrowersphereGuy&#8230;</p>
<p>As one Guy to another, I&#8217;m sure you want your blog to be as accurate as my Maxthon Blog (<a href="http://blog.maxthon.com/)" rel="nofollow">http://blog.maxthon.com/)</a>. So here are a couple of minor corrections. </p>
<p>First, I didn&#8217;t write the piece &#8220;A Farewell to Freeze Headaches.&#8221; It was  written by a Maxthon developer, the talented Jin Jiang. </p>
<p>Second, the official press release that went to editors, did include this paragraph immediately after Jeff  Chen&#8217;s comment that he didn&#8217;t know of a browser with the same feature as The Isolator: &#8220;Google&#8217;s Chrome has a Crash Control feature that has a purpose similar to The Isolator, but uses a different technology.  It cannot stop freezes cause by Flash programs, which Maxthon&#8217;s Isolator can prevent.&#8221;</p>
<p>The copy of the press release in the blog was from an earlier draft and posted accidentally. Thanks for the catch.  I&#8217;ll correct the blog entry.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m curious. Is there something basic you don&#8217;t like about Maxthon&#8211;besides me? I notice  you post the sites and regular information for the other five major browsers. But it can&#8217;t have escaped your attention that&#8211;depsite pollsters&#8217; insistance on hiding the number of surfers using Max within the statistics for Internet Explorer&#8212;Maxthon has gathered a large, enthusiast number of users. Have you tried Maxthon? A lot of people who do think it&#8217;s a hoot.</p>
<p>Finally, a special thanks for conferring on me the title of  &#8220;the persona behind the madness that is Maxthon Blog.&#8221;  I am honored.</p>
<p>MaxthonGuy<br />
a.k.a. The Persona Behind the Madness that is Maxthon Blog</p>
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		<title>By: Browsersphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Multi-process Web Browser Architectures</title>
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		<dc:creator>Browsersphere &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Multi-process Web Browser Architectures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 05:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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